Tributes to B-66ers


News On Larry Barbay - 11/28/02 Submitted by Tom Sterling

Larry and Agatha called this morning and wanted me to tell everyone how = much Larry has appreciated the visits, calls and prayers. What a support = group! He has a "pass" for Thanksgiving and has to return to the VA Hospital = Sunday evening. He sounded good. He expects to be at the VA hospital = until the middle of December. He is still under going treatment for his = prostate problem. I know many of you have "walked that mile." It appears that many of the "issues" he had have been resolved. Those of you who have the time: continue the visits and calls. You can't = imagine how much they have lifted his spirits and don't forget the = prayers. As Larry says: "What a great bunch of guys." Larry's VA phone # is 254.899.6054

Larry, Agatha and family wish all a "Happy Thanksgiving" as do Cheryl and I.

Bill here is what you wanted to know. It came from. http://www.pownetwork.org/ this link.

BARBAY, LAWRENCE

Name: Lawrence Barbay
Rank/Branch: O3/US Air Force
Unit: 41st Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron, Takhli AB TH
Date of Birth: 17 October 34
Home City of Record: Baton Rouge LA
Date of Loss: 20 July 1966
Country of Loss: North Vietnam
Loss Coordinates: 215058N 1051657E (WK292160)
Status (in 1973): Released POW
Category:
Aircraft/Vehicle/Ground: EB66C

Other Personnel in Incident: Norman A. McDaniel; Edwin L. Hubbard; William H. Means Jr.; Glendon W. Perkins (all released POWs); Craig R. Nobert (missing)

Source: Compiled by Homecoming II Project 15 May 1990 from one or more of the following: raw data from U.S. Government agency sources, correspondence with POW/MIA families, published sources, interviews. Updated by the P.O.W. NETWORK.

REMARKS: 730304 RELSD BY DRV

SYNOPSIS: The Douglas EB66C Skywarrior was outfitted as an electronic warfare aircraft which carried roughly 5 tons of electronic gear in addition to its flight crew of three and technical personnel. The EB66C featured a pressurized capsule installed in the bomb bay, that accommodated four technicians whose responsibility was to operate electronic reconnaissance gear.

On July 20, 1966, an EB66C was dispatched from the 41st Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron at Takhli Airbase in Thailand on an electronic countermeasure mission over North Vietnam. The crew and technicians that day included Capt. Lawrence Barbay, Capt. Glendon W. Perkins, Capt. Norman A. McDaniel, Capt. William H. Means Jr., 1Lt. Edward L. Hubbard, and 1Lt. Craig R. Nobert. Nobert served as the electronics warfare officer on the flight.

The flight was normal to the target area near Tuyen Quang, Quang Bac Thai Province, North Vietnam. At this point, the aircraft was orbited east/west. During this maneuver, the aircraft was hit by hostile fire. Two parachutes were seen to eject the aircraft, after which the aircraft descended and disintegrated.

In the spring of 1973, 591 Americans were released from prison camps in Vietnam, including most of the crew of the Skywarrior lost on July 20, 1966. They had been held in various POW camps in and around Hanoi for nearly seven years. Only Nobert remained Missing in Action.

For 24 years, the Vietnamese have denied knowledge of the fate of Craig R. Nobert, even though the U.S. believes there is a good possibility he was captured and died in captivity. On January 18, 1978, the Department of the Air Force declared Craig Nobert dead, based on no specific information he was still alive.

Disturbing testimony was given to Congress in 1980 that the Vietnamese "stockpiled" the remains of Americans to return at politically advantageous times. Could Nobert be waiting, in a casket, for just such a moment?

Even more disturbing are the nearly 10,000 reports received by the U.S. relating to Americans missing in Southeast Asia. Many authorities who have examined this information (largely classified), have reluctantly come to the conclusion that many Americans are still alive in Southeast Asia. Could Nobert be among these?

Perhaps the most compelling questions when remains are returned are, "Is it really who they say it is?", and "How -- and when -- did he die?" As long as reports continue to be received which indicate Americans are still alive in Indochina, we can only regard the return of remains as a politically expedient way to show "progress" on accounting for American POW/MIAs. As long as reports continue to be received, we must wonder how many are alive.

As long as even one American remains alive, held against his will, we must do everything possible to bring him home -- alive.


During their captivity, Perkins, Barbay and McDaniel were promoted to the rank of Major. Hubbard was promoted to the rank of Captain. Means was promoted to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel.

Craig R. Nobert was promoted to the rank of Major during the period he was maintained missing.

Norman A. McDaniel resided in Camp Springs, Maryland in early 1990.

William H. Means, Jr. died in 1986 as a result of illness stemming from his incarceraton in Vietnam.

SOURCE: WE CAME HOME copyright 1977
Captain and Mrs. Frederic A Wyatt (USNR Ret), Barbara Powers Wyatt, Editor P.O.W. Publications, 10250 Moorpark St., Toluca Lake, CA 91602 Text is reproduced as found in the original publication (including date and spelling errors). UPDATE - 09/95 by the P.O.W. NETWORK, Skidmore, MO

LAWRENCE BARBAY
Major - United States Air Force
Shot Down: July 20, 1966
Released: March 4, 1973

I am Major Lawrence "Larry" Barbay hailing from Baton Rouge Louisiana where I was born and raised. Upon graduation from high school I was fortunate enough to receive an athletic scholarship to Louisiana Tech University for football graduating in May 1956. I entered the Air Force via ROTC and received my wings from Navigator Training at Ellington Field Houston Texas in March 1958. From there I completed Electronic Warfare School at Keesler AFB Mississippi and have had operational assignments in Japan (Yokota 1958-62); Strategic Air Command at Biggs AFB in El Paso (1962-65); and then to SEA (Southeast Asia) in February 1966.

I am married to a lovely lady, Agatha who is the mother of our four children who are David 13; Catherine 11; Dina 9 and Lauren 6. Lauren was born on July 30, 1966 ten days after I was shot down.

I was downed on 20 July 1966 while flying in a EB-66C on a large strike support mission about 40 miles north of Hanoi. Upon ejection I was captured and became a POW. I was released on March 4, 1973. My ordeal in North Vietnam was a long one and if there is a message that I would like to impart to my fellow Americans as to how I survived it would be this one. Early in my marriage, Agatha once told me that "Faith can move mountains." I have found that it can do more. My faith in God, my country and its people and my wife and family has in my mind brought me to life and freedom once again.

November 1996
Lawrence Barbay retired from the United States Air Force as a Lt. Col. He and Agatha reside in Texas.


Nomination for Honorary Membership in the B-66 Association Submitted by Ned Colburn

Please allow me to introduce you to Prof. Dr. Gerhard Moroff, Mannheim, Germany -- one of our stellar supporters who has researched the history of the B-66 via the official repositories at Hq USAFE and Maxwell AFB.

I recommend that we extend Honorary Membership in the B-66 Association to Gerhard and invite him to the 2004 B-66 Reunion in Dayton, Ohio.

Gerhard is in his mid-40s -- and like Jan-peter Van Viegen in Holland -- became interested in B-66 history, in which they both have done extensive research.

Gerhard has visited all of the former B-66 bases in the UK, France & Germany and can provide us current photos and first-hand knowledge as to the status and condition of such bases -- i.e., which of the French bases are being used for auto drag racing, chicken farming and furniture manufacturing as amusing starters!

Today, I received a packet of information from Gerhard that included 2 articles from a French enthusiast magazine [Air Fan Magazine] -- with one article about Toul-Rosieres AB and a second article about Chambley AB.

The narrative in both articles is in French -- with English translation for each of the many photos in the TRAB article.

Acknowledgement of contributors to the TRAB story include: Dave Menard. Col J. Keith. General H. Newcomer. Stan Tippin. William Lawton. G. Schrader. W.R. Bryan and C.H. Anderson.

In the TRAB article, Stan Tippin is pictured at EWO Raven 1 Station and in a crew photograph alongside an RB-66C.

A third article [in English and apparently compiled by European Air Arms] is the best account I have seen of B-66 operations at the various USAFE bases -- with a list of Tail Numbers and history of particular aircraft in their sojurn to SEA and back to Spangdahlem in 1969.

I will make photo copies of the material I received from Gerhard and provide it to Jim Milam, Paul Duplessis, Bill Starnes, Cliff Parrott and Warren Thompson. Stan Tippin may possibly have an original copy of the TRAB article.

Please render your thanks to Gerhard and invite him aboard the B-66 Association.

His coordinates are as follow:

Prof. Dr. Gerhard Moroff
E-mail Address: moroff@ba-mannheim.de
Address: Coblitzweb 7, Mannheim 68163, Germany
Phone: 621 4105 2611
Fax: 621 4105 2618



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